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Cat Chatter / Re: Playtime With The Cats
« Last post by Lola on January 14, 2018, 01:37:04 PM »
Thanks for reading!  :)

What made me think to post all of that was...  it is normal for Lacy to play games with us and the cats.  So her not playing with the belt, was technically odd. 
Also, when Lacy was sick (from swallowing the rope toy pieces...before we knew that was the problem)... Lilly gave Lacy kisses on the nose.  A few times.  It isn't that they aren't friends, but it was different.  My first thought was... OMG what does Lilly know!  Of course, I wasn't thinking that Lilly just knew that Lacy was under the mind goes right to something more horrible. 

All of the above, got me to thinking... gosh, we have a WONDERFUL fur family!  We truly are very blessed. 
If you would have asked me several years ago if 6 cats, all from different backgrounds, would all get along as well as they do, AND with a dog.... and actually love and enjoy each other... I would have said, "No way!" 
Cat Chatter / Re: Playtime With The Cats
« Last post by DeeDee on January 14, 2018, 01:24:59 PM »
I always think it's so great when some households can have multi-species pets all together. I'm not trying though. Prey drive is TOO strong in these two. Barkly kills moles. Vlad goes berserk when he sees the neighbors' cats out in the brush. Then there's their reaction to cats in carriers at the vet's office. Just too much risk in my mind.
Dog Chatter / Re: Are There No Safe Dog Toys?
« Last post by DeeDee on January 14, 2018, 01:20:49 PM »
Well one of those wobblers would work. They want the food in them, but it's not THAT easy to get the food out.

I finally found the one the boys have. It's really hard plastic, and they've never broken it:

The videos at that page show a lot of different ones, but I like the one they've got.
Cat Chatter / Re: Playtime With The Cats
« Last post by Middle Child on January 14, 2018, 01:20:28 PM »
Oh thank you so much for writing all that out.  I enjoyed reading it so much, and enjoy even more knowing more about the dynamics at your house!  Hug1 Hug1 Hug1
Dog Chatter / Re: Are There No Safe Dog Toys?
« Last post by Lola on January 14, 2018, 01:13:47 PM »
After looking at a few of your links...
In a nutshell, my mistake was allowing Lacy to "play" on her own with the toy. 

What do people do for dogs that have a lot of alone time?  For years, she had a dog friend.  Not going that route though! 
Dog Chatter / Re: Are There No Safe Dog Toys?
« Last post by Lola on January 14, 2018, 01:09:51 PM »
Hubby and I work different shifts.  There are a few hours (sometimes) when no one is home, and Lacy is locked in a bedroom by herself.  I feel badly for her.  I thought (or didn't) that the rope chew toy was something that would occupy her alone time. 

Lacy isn't one to play catch.. with people.  She will play a spring toy game with the cats.  It involves them "shooting" the spring toy at her, and her "shooting" it back at them.  We also have indoor games we play with her, but they always seem to involve the cats as well.  Lacy doesn't like to be outdoors much.  I think I know the reason, but that thread is for another time.  Anyway, that limits alone playtime. 

I learned (and remembered surprisingly) about the tug a war games not being a good thing.  And that a dog toy needed to be larger then their mouth and/or head.  The rope toy was very large and tight... when new.  It was still large, but not so tight after all the months of chewing.  I probably should have tossed it sooner.  Either way, not buying another. 

Lacy does have an Extreme Kong that she likes VERY much.  One toy just seems kinda pathetic. 

I'll check out your links.  Thanks. 
Cat Chatter / Re: Playtime With The Cats
« Last post by Lola on January 14, 2018, 12:56:23 PM »
Speaking of dogs and cats living together...

Our dog (at the time) "found" a litter of kittens in our backyard.  She didn't mess with them, she just showed us her discovery.  :)  Fast forward to mama cat leaving one kitten behind, and our first cat joins the family!
Dog and cat acted like they didn't know the other existed.  There was no dislike between them, but there was no shared time together either.   

A few years later, and a few more cats... (other dog now deceased) new dog joins the family.  She did NOT like cats.  Keept dog and cats separate, for the most part.   Not an easy task either!

Fast forward again, to Lacy.  Soooooo different from the other dogs.  I don't know if this will make sense, but you can see the love and respect she has for the cats.  And them for her.  They often share mealtime, playtime, sleep time, etc., but they also know the others' boundaries... so to speak.

Lacy has NEVER shown ANY sort of attitude towards the cats.  Not even to Jenkins when he was new, and would take a swipe at Lacy, when they would meet in tight spaces.  Lacy didn't flinch.  Didn't look at him.  No response whatsoever.  To this day, Lacy seems to understand that tight spaces make Jenkins nervous.  Lacy will stop and let Jenkins go first, if they should meet in the hallway.  If Jenkins is in the bathroom with me first... Lacy will stay out. 

They all sleep on the sofa, or spare room beds together.  Lacy has a dog bed in the master bedroom.  It is her bed.  They all seemed to establish the rules together.  At first, if a cat was in the middle of her bed, Lacy wouldn't try to find a sleeping spot "around" the cat...she would come get us to fix the situation.  :) 
Now the norm is ...she will share her bed, but Lacy gets first choice of the area she wants.  Lola is the only one that will sleep on Lacy's bed with Lacy.  Once in a while, Lilly will.  The other cats are either not allowed, or not interested.  I missed that discussion.  :) 

When eating, they all eat out of their own plates and bowls.  Only after the cats have walked away, will Lacy "clean" their plates.  The cats almost always finish eating first, but they NEVER go to Lacy's bowl to sample or see what she is eating. 

BUT dogs are dogs and cats are cats.  If we leave the house, we put Lacy in the master bedroom by herself.  Not taking any chances, especially if they all know we aren't home, and not there to supervise.  Might be crazy, but (like human kids) behavior might be a litttttle bit different, when the parents aren't home. 
With everything in me, I do not think Lacy would hurt one of the cats on purpose (or them her).... but if a situation happened and Lacy thought she needed to defend herself... 

The point of my rambling  :) I LOVE how the cats and Lacy dog love and respect each other. 

This bunch is a lot of work and a lot of expense, but the love is priceless. 
Dog Chatter / Re: Are There No Safe Dog Toys?
« Last post by DeeDee on January 14, 2018, 12:51:48 PM »
I don't ever let them have toys unless I'm with them. As soon I'm through playing with them, I put them up in a box in a closet.

Favorite toys that have lasted quite a while: Buy larger than mouth     Buy these balls larger than their mouth so they can only push and chase

Large size:  I put dried liver pieces in it. Always take up, empty after play and wash out, or it lures ants.

Always buy balls and ropes larger than the dog needs. If balls fit in their mouth, they're too small. Buy only ropes with tight, heavy braiding and no stringy ends. Never buy toys that are for tug-of-war OR play tug-of-war with a dog that you know can physically beat you. It's just not a good idea to let a dog win in any kind of physical confrontation.
Dog Chatter / Re: Are There No Safe Dog Toys?
« Last post by Lola on January 14, 2018, 12:01:08 PM »
I was SO pizzed at the toy and myself, I tossed it right away.  But I wouldn't have been able to tell anyway.  She has had the toy for a while.  It had a lot of knots on it, when it was new.  Dog chews off the knots.  Mom throws away the chewed off part. 
I am assuming she just accidentally swallowed some of it this last time. 
Soooooo I guess the toy is technically safe, as long as the dog doesn't swallow any of it.   pullingouthair
Cat Chatter / Re: Playtime With The Cats
« Last post by Lola on January 14, 2018, 11:46:39 AM »
kittens who need to be trained not to attack ankles..

I will never remember that to recommend it, BUT it would definitely work for ankle biters!!  I think everyone has a belt or two.
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