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Calendar Events / Re: Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!
« Last post by Middle Child on Today at 07:16:34 AM »
Happy Thanksgiving to my dear friends,.  I am so thankful for all of you!  Hug1 Hug1 Hug1 Hug1 Hug1
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Calendar Events / Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!
« Last post by Pookie on November 22, 2017, 09:47:35 PM »
I know, I'm a little early, but I just want to wish everyone a very Happy Thanksgiving.  I am very thankful for this site and for all of you.  Enjoy the day, and if you're traveling, stay safe!

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In The News / Controversial sugar industry study on cancer uncovered
« Last post by Pookie on November 22, 2017, 09:41:19 PM »
If it wasn't so pathetic, it might actually be funny.  But it just goes to show that the truth does always come out eventually:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/healthtrending/controversial-sugar-industry-study-on-cancer-uncovered/ar-BBFsdnd?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp

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An old study is now shedding new light on the sugar industry's controversial past, and its secrets are being revealed in a new paper.

The 1960s study, which suggests a link between a high-sugar diet and high blood cholesterol levels and cancer in rats, was sponsored by the sugar industry, according to the perspective paper published in the journal PLOS Biology on Tuesday.

Yet the study itself was never published and has been forgotten until now.

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This enigmatic study seems to provide evidence of the harmful health impacts of eating too much sugar. It also suggests that a group then called the Sugar Research Foundation might have manipulated scientific research in its favor, according to the newpaper.

The authors of the new paper previously conducted a separate historical analysis of sugar industry-related documents and studies.

That analysis, published last year in JAMA Internal Medicine, suggested that the Sugar Research Foundation sponsored a research program that successfully cast doubt about the health hazards of a high-sugar diet and rather promoted fat "as the dietary culprit" in health concerns such as heart disease.

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"We reviewed our research archives and found documentation that the study in question ended for three reasons, none of which involved potential research findings: the study was significantly delayed; it was consequently over budget; and the delay overlapped with an organizational restructuring with the Sugar Research Foundation becoming a new entity, the International Sugar Research Foundation," the association's statement said.

"There were plans to continue the study with funding from the British Nutrition Foundation, but, for reasons unbeknown to us, this did not occur," the statement said.

In response, Kearns pointed out that other studies that overlapped with that organizational restructuring were still continued.

None of those other "reasons" given are valid reasons to NOT publish a study, IMO.  They already had the data at that point, so why not publish it.  But this just adds to my personal opinion that "studies" should be taken with a grain of salt, so to speak, because data can be manipulated or in this case, hidden/buried.

Here's the part that made me laugh from the absurdity:

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The Sugar Association's statement added that sugar consumed in moderation can be part of a balanced lifestyle and that the association remains committed to supporting research to further understand the role sugar plays in consumers' diets.

And if you believe that, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale, real cheap.   >:D

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All in all, the new paper's findings were "striking" and "ethically concerning" to Dr. Sanjay Basu, an assistant professor of medicine at Stanford University who was not involved in the work.

"The context for this historically is that during the time at which these studies were taking place, a lot of dietary recommendations were being formulated that emphasized reducing high-fat foods in particular, and in many cases low-fat foods were replaced by high-sugar foods to be more palatable," said Basu, who has studied the health impacts of added sugars in his own research.

"The fact that sugar was not being considered an additionally concerning substance unfortunately led to a lot of changes in the American diet that correspond to a rise in obesity and type 2 diabetes," Basu said.

I would also bet that the push to "reduce high-fat foods" along with the increase in high-sugar foods is why you're seeing more dementia and Alzheimer's these days.  Decades of starving the brain of fat (a good part of the brain is made up of fat) and increasing inflammatory substances like sugar has consequences.  Just my  2cents.

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General Discussion / Re: Apple sauce
« Last post by Middle Child on November 21, 2017, 07:34:30 PM »
I made apple sauce again.  This time I had the cinnamon for it of course, but I added a tiny shake of the allspice to it too.  I really like it that way.  So glad I discovered it.

bananamiddlechild
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General Discussion / Re: Awesome hike yesterday!
« Last post by Middle Child on November 21, 2017, 07:27:02 PM »
It's a winter wonderland! 

That is EXACTLY what it was Pookie!

Thanks for looking both of you.  The mountain is 4,046 feet at the peak.  You climb about 2,000 feet in 2.7 miles.  Most of it is pretty steep, but it isn't rough terrain except for the muddy (or icy) sections. Going down is more difficult than going up.
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General Discussion / Re: Awesome hike yesterday!
« Last post by DeeDee on November 21, 2017, 05:29:27 PM »
That looks beautiful, but I'm glad there's no snow here.
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General Discussion / Re: Awesome hike yesterday!
« Last post by Pookie on November 21, 2017, 04:42:08 PM »
Near the top it started getting a little frosty.  This stretch is always one of my absolute favorite parts of this trail, regardless of the season.

It's a winter wonderland!  All of the photos are beautiful.  Thanks for sharing!  I'm glad you had a good time!
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General Discussion / Re: Awesome hike yesterday!
« Last post by Middle Child on November 21, 2017, 08:30:05 AM »
Half an hour from home, I went around a bend and wow, the sunset!
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General Discussion / Re: Awesome hike yesterday!
« Last post by Middle Child on November 21, 2017, 08:28:28 AM »
There is no view from the top unless you climb the fire tower, which we did not do.  She usually does, but it was very cold and windy and for once she didn't.  I haven't gone up the tower in years.

On the way down the clouds had moved in and it was even colder, the ice was slick and we had a fine mist of snow blowing in our face.  But it was heavenly.  She forgot her yaktrax, but did have her poles.  I had the yaktrax on, and my pole.  Neither of us fell on the ice.
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General Discussion / Re: Awesome hike yesterday!
« Last post by Middle Child on November 21, 2017, 08:24:28 AM »
Near the top it started getting a little frosty.  This stretch is always one of my absolute favorite parts of this trail, regardless of the season.
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