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GENERAL CAT CARE / Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Last post by Middle Child on January 21, 2019, 06:35:33 PM »
Jennie's powdered lactulose has been ordered.

By the way vet called tonight.  She said if I become concerned about Jennie's appetite to skip a dose of the antibiotic, go 36 hours instead of 24. I might try that tomorrow, but that means I would have to reschedule her appointment to redo the blood work. Which would be fine with me.

She also feels that based on my descriptions of Jennie's edema/swellings that she is sure this is to do with her lymphatic system, not the miralax. The coming and going of it is typical of lymphatic issues.  My sister said that too.  However I am STILL afraid to give her any more miralax.
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GENERAL CAT CARE / Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Last post by Middle Child on January 21, 2019, 01:48:29 PM »
Here's another new thing.  Jennie got very upset with nail trim time.  It's not because of the puffy paw thing (which by the way, I think the right front paw and the left hind foot, are still a tiny bit puffy) because it started the last time I trimmed, a couple of weeks ago.

 Usually she sits docilely in my arms, purring as she anticipates the treats after, though she does turn her head and look away as if she can't bear to watch.

But the last two times (including today) she fusses, pulls away and meows loudly and grumble/growls as if I am hurting her.
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GENERAL CAT CARE / Re: Caring for a special needs cat- it is NOT spoiling
« Last post by Pookie on January 21, 2019, 10:11:59 AM »
Sadly, some people just aren't open to advice, no matter how good the intentions of the person giving it.  I'm sorry you were treated that way, but thank you for sharing your experiences and advice here.   Hug1

I, too, hand-fed Sweetie Girl (Pookie's sister) when she didn't want to eat.  I never once thought of it as "spoiling."  IMO, "spoiling" is buying all sorts of toys, fancy kitty condos and cat beds when they're usually happy with simple things (like a rolled up ball of aluminum foil or a ping pong ball to swat around).

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Jennie wants to eat but because of (I suspect) the antibiotic, she just doesn't feel like it. 

Some antibiotics affect the taste buds, at least in humans.  Perhaps that's the case here as well.  Either way, you are doing everything you can to keep her comfortable.   DrLisaPiersonWorthy DrLisaPiersonWorthy DrLisaPiersonWorthy
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GENERAL CAT CARE / Caring for a special needs cat- it is NOT spoiling
« Last post by Middle Child on January 21, 2019, 09:22:38 AM »

So I've made this post, in the hopes that people will come across it, and understand that catering to a cat who needs special care will not spoil the cat.  It will help the cat get over the difficult spot, and the cat will feel better and be more likely to try harder to keep fighting illness, because of that special care and attention. And LOVE

As I sat on my bed just now hand feeding Jennie her breakfast, I started thinking about a thread I got involved with in another forum a few months ago.  The OP had a cat newly diagnosed with CKD and the cat was reluctant to eat.  The OP didn't want to "spoil" the cat or "cater to him" by using any of the various coaxing methods and incentives I had suggested, because she didn't want the cat to "expect this special attention all the time". Can you imagine? 

I tried to make the person understand that cats prefer to have dignity and take care of themselves, and when the cat was feeling better he would want to eat on his own, he wouldn't "demand" to be hand fed for all time.

I said I have a lot of experience taking care of special needs cats, both with short illnesses, chronic illnesses and fatal illnesses.  I know this to be so.

Well, this person didn't want to hear about my experience and then two more people felt the need to jump in and tell me how "cruel" I was being to the OP about her cat and how "dangerous" it was to "spoil" a cat.

Aside from remarking that it was the cat I was concerned with, not the owner, at that point I withdrew from the thread.  A few more posts followed aimed at me and my cruelty, but I didn't take the bait.

I received a PM from a moderator thanking me for dropping out of the thread and assuring me that I was neither cruel or unfeeling and felt that I had given very good advice.

What's my point in all this?

My point is, that cats who need special care will not "take advantage of the situation".  When the cat feels better again, she or he will want to eat by herself again.

I have seen this with Bibbs  angel5, Ootay angel5, Tolly angel5, Mazy cat and now Jennie. Jennie wants to eat but because of (I suspect) the antibiotic, she just doesn't feel like it.  She had eaten her first breakfast on her own (with various incentives to help her finish) but when I called her for her 2nd meal 45 minutes later she didn't come.  I brought it to her in bed and put it in front of her (with freeze dried chicken breast sprinkled over, I started with the big guns right away)

She tried to eat it but couldn't. I sat next to her and fed her, bit by bit, from a little spatula.  She would take a nibble, pause, look away.  Then take another nibble.  And so on. The whole process took about 15 minutes to feed her half an ounce of canned food, and she ate every bite except the very last bit.

I have no "fear" that she will demand to be fed this way all the time.  I know, that when she feels better she will prefer to get up and come out and eat in her usual meal spot. She has done so, again and again. As has Mazy cat. And all the others.
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Cat Chatter / Re: ShadowCat
« Last post by ThreeStep on January 21, 2019, 08:20:19 AM »
They are drawing straws:)
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GENERAL CAT CARE / Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Last post by Middle Child on January 21, 2019, 08:05:46 AM »
Jennie's paws appear to be all back to normal. No more bumps or swellings on her face.

I've written to the vet this morning to ask about getting the lactulose powder from Wedgewood pharmacy, where I get Jennie's piroxicam. I told her I am afraid to use the miralax again, and have been using mineral oil (she doesn't want me to use it but I have t use something)

She went more than 24 hours without passing any stool, though she did sit in the litter box a few times, which really was worrying me until finally this morning she had a "normal" sized formed poop.  Firm outside runny in the middle, no discernible blood!

So I am relieved the mineral oil is helping, but getting up in the middle of the night to dose it isn't much fun (she takes it in food)

On weekends I can fit in a dose during the day too, but I won't be able to manage that during the work week, so, again, we need the lactulose.

Still needs coaxing and enhancements to eat. I am using pork pancreas glandular powder, egg yolk lecithin, Whole Life freeze dried chicken breast and Forti Flora in rotation for enhancements. The forti flora is a last resort.

Today was supposed to be her follow up blood work, but of course because of the emergency last Thursday she now goes back on Thursday instead.  I am glad because it is minus 7 F  (wind chill minus 21) I would hate to have to take her out.
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All About Litter / Re: Cat's Pride discontinued their only decent litter
« Last post by Pookie on January 20, 2019, 09:29:24 PM »
 Hug1 Hug1 Hug1 Hug1
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Cat Chatter / Re: ShadowCat
« Last post by Pookie on January 20, 2019, 09:14:05 PM »
My nights include Lola, Misa dog (if she chooses) plus one other cat.   The "plus one cat" is different every night.  I try to be somewhat fair.  ;)

Misa will sleep in bed with you now and then?  That's wonderful!  She must feel more comfortable with you and hubby to do that!
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All About Litter / Re: Cat's Pride discontinued their only decent litter
« Last post by Middle Child on January 20, 2019, 07:48:05 PM »
No that is not the one and it's awful anyway. The Natural has been discontinued.  All they sell now is that disgusting "light" crap. It turns to mush, it's really really awful. All of it.

I will never have pets again after these are gone. It's just too difficult to take care of them well in this insane world.
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All About Litter / Re: Cat's Pride discontinued their only decent litter
« Last post by Lola on January 20, 2019, 07:18:23 PM »
Any chance it is just disc. with whoever you had the autoship with?

Is this the one?
https://catspride.com/product/cats-pride-scoopable-fragrance-free/

I THINK you used one that used the word "natural."  If so... never mind.

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