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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #105 on: November 19, 2018, 09:54:44 AM »
Just fyi, to you and others who visit here:  some human pharmacies will do compounding for pets.

I hope you hear back from the vet soon!
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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #106 on: November 19, 2018, 01:46:42 PM »
Just fyi, to you and others who visit here:  some human pharmacies will do compounding for pets.

I hope you hear back from the vet soon!

If the medicine is made for people, most of the "big" pharmacies do compounding for pets...and usually MUCH cheaper. 
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« Reply #107 on: November 19, 2018, 03:48:59 PM »
Good points both of you thanks. However I want Jennie to stay on what she is already on.

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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #108 on: November 20, 2018, 07:37:33 AM »
I have heard from the veterinary specialists and they have agreed to the larger refill.  They will call me when it's ready, and since I canceled my hike today I can drive right up there and get it.  No more worries about running out. I can't believe what a load off me this is.

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« Reply #109 on: November 20, 2018, 08:27:39 AM »
Good points both of you thanks. However I want Jennie to stay on what she is already on.

Understood, but I think there may be some confusion.  The point was, you could probably get what she IS already on from one of the big pharmacies, because they will also compound medications for pets, including veterinary medications.  We weren't suggesting changing what she's on, just getting it from a different place.  I hope that explanation clarifies things.

All that said, I'm glad the vet specialists agreed to the larger refill.  That definitely DOES take a load off!   thumbsup1
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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #110 on: November 20, 2018, 09:27:23 AM »
Sorry I am not making msyelf clear. I am having this same discussion in the IBD group and they are making the same comments as you, so obviously it is ME that is not explaining properly.

 Yes I understand that I can get gabapentin from other sources.  However  it won't be what she is already on.

Compounding methods are different at different suppliers. Jennie cannot tolerate the Wedgewood compounded gabapentin.  She doesn't have the time or the stamina for me to be experimenting with other different pharmacy suppliers who wil be using their own compounding methods.

I don't want to do trial and error with Jennie.  There is no point to that, because, to put it bluntly, Jennie has a fatal disease and is not going to be around long enough to make trial and error worthwhile.

I already know she can tolerate and feel better on the compounded medicine from the specialist center. So I want her to stay on that.

The inconvenience to me is not important. It's not going to be forever after all.  Jennie's comfort is what's important. It is ALL that matters. Hug1 Hug1 Hug1 Hug1


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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #111 on: November 21, 2018, 12:28:44 PM »
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Compounding methods are different at different suppliers. Jennie cannot tolerate the Wedgewood compounded gabapentin.  She doesn't have the time or the stamina for me to be experimenting with other different pharmacy suppliers who wil be using their own compounding methods.

I didn't know that.
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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #112 on: November 21, 2018, 01:01:10 PM »
I didn't know that.

Well but it makes sense, when you think about it?  This is what I mean.... the mail order compounding pharmacy uses almond oil as the carrier.  The compounding pharmacy at the veterinary specialists center uses water as the carrier.  Other places may use other substances. 

Since I've found something Jennie can tolerate I want to stick with that, not keep trying other things, continually upsetting her system even more.  I just don't see any point to that.

Am I making sense yet?  :-[

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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #113 on: November 21, 2018, 02:08:48 PM »
Well but it makes sense, when you think about it?

I would have thought pharmacists would be taught the same compounding practices when they go to pharmacy school (seriously, I'm not being a smarty-pants, they go to school for it), so I would have thought they use the same methods and techniques.  I've only had to use a compounding pharmacy once for Pookie, and it was just to get his medication in a chicken-flavored liquid form, so my experience is very limited.

Since I've found something Jennie can tolerate I want to stick with that, not keep trying other things, continually upsetting her system even more.  I just don't see any point to that.

Makes sense!  "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."   :)
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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #114 on: November 21, 2018, 03:17:26 PM »
I would have thought pharmacists would be taught the same compounding practices when they go to pharmacy school (seriously, I'm not being a smarty-pants, they go to school for it), so I would have thought they use the same methods and techniques.  I've only had to use a compounding pharmacy once for Pookie, and it was just to get his medication in a chicken-flavored liquid form, so my experience is very limited.

Makes sense!  "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."   :)

But it's not the method that's the issue here, it's the ingredients. It's not any different from me not being able to take generic thyroid medicine.  I have to have the name brand Synthroid.  I would like it very much if I could take the generic levothyroxine.  The Synthroid costs a fortune every month.

However, having said that, there are probably as many methods to compounding pet meds as there are pharmacists to do it. Regardless of what they are taught everyone does things in their own ways..

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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #115 on: November 21, 2018, 04:57:13 PM »
By the way, I followed your (all) advice and have kept Jennie on canned food.  Thank you all.

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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #116 on: November 24, 2018, 07:56:53 AM »
Jennie is playing a little every day! It makes me so happy to see her! This morning she had a little song and dance for breakfast!  Not her usual very active Song and Dance, but a lot of song and a tiny bit of dance.

On Thanksgiving when my friend D came Jennie wanted to be noticed. It was very strange because Jennie usually just ignores a visitor until she feels like going over to say hello with a sniff or two.  But she just lay there in her bed and stared at D until I prompted D to go over and speak to her. Jennie turned herself inside out with delight.

She's maintaining her normal healthy weight at 8 pounds 8 ounces.  Her fur, it looks like, is going to grow in much lighter than it used to be.  This, if I remember correctly, has something to do with temperature. It's cold now, so the fur will grow in light. I could be wrong though.

Hard to believe it's been a whole month since that drive up to the specialist clinic. Her blood test is Monday. She's been on the piroxicam 3 weeks. Keep your paws crossed her kidneys are handling the piroxicam. I don't see any evidence that there is a problem.  Her pee habits remain the same, and she never goes near the water bowl. After the test I will start the sub q fluids.

Then, hopefully that will be the end of vet trips, for everyone, for a good long time.

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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #117 on: November 24, 2018, 08:56:22 AM »
Good to hear (read)! 
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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
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Re: Jennie has been diagnosed with carcinoma (cancer)
« Reply #119 on: November 24, 2018, 10:57:53 AM »
Good to hear (read)! 

Ditto!  And  fingerscrossed that her kidneys are handling the medication well.   fingerscrossed fingerscrossed fingerscrossed
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