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Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« on: June 28, 2013, 08:27:57 PM »
OMG! I'm sitting here reeling in my chair after seeing this tweet:

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K9 Emergency Question!! #DogHealth http://www.petforums.com/f11/k9-emergency-question-2931/
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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2013, 10:41:48 PM »
I get a yellow warning from my antivirus when I click on the link.

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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2013, 10:47:49 PM »
I tried to go directly to the site (petforums.com) and got the same warning.

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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2013, 11:13:03 PM »
It's not giving me a warning, so I'll copy the post:

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K9 Emergency Question!!
My friend has a deaf 11 year old jack russell terrier and was recently convinced by his vet to undergo a "k9 disarming procedure" as an alternative to euthanasia. (the recently dog bit a child but it was startled after being fallen on and the reaction was in no way intentional. his wife demanded he get rid of the animal and because the dog has a "bite history" now, the shelter wont take it and his only other option is euthanasia) The oral surgery requires a 500 dollar non refundable deposit and will cost 4k in total. It will extract and remove all of the dogs teeth except for two back molars. I feel like this is going to ruin the dogs quality of life and he is not being told of the risk by the vet. Im not a vet but something isnt sitting right about the suggestion and planned surgery next week. I feel really bad for the dog and worry that my friend is making a mistake and grossly misinformed. If its as terrible an idea for the dog as i suspect, i want to relay this to him but im lost on any info relating to it.

Is this a prudent recommendation by the vet? Is this dangerous for the dog?

There are several answers to it, but all to the same conclusion as me. NOT a good idea for any number of reasons.

Hopefully someone will take the pet since she wanted it gone anyway. Luckily I don't belong to the forum, so can't post. I just saw the tweet with the site in it.
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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2013, 06:34:16 AM »
My gosh.  What will humans think of next, to do to animals.  Sickening.  Cats with stomatitis often have full mouth extractions and they do okay, but that is a necessary medical procedure to relive pain. This is just.... disgusting.

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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2013, 10:29:45 AM »
One of the comments said they'd heard of "filing down a dog's teeth" to prevent biting injuries (at least they went into the pain that goes on with it when telling about it), but never heard pulling all their teeth.


I'm sorry, but I think that any vet and caretaker, that would do anything like this that's not medically necessary, is just plain, ol' evil.

Reminds me of Julius Caesar by Shakespeare:

"The evil that men do lives after them; The good is oft interred with their bones"

I truly have a hard time believing that MANY people here on earth have any good at all to take with them. Especially vets that would actually recommend something like this.
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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2013, 06:10:43 PM »
Lemme get this straight...

11 year old dog is deaf, so cannot hear the child in his vicinity
child falls on deaf dog, scaring the crap out of it
dog bites child out of (literally) blind fear

Sooo... instead of teaching the child to be more careful around the dog because it is old and deaf, the solution is to punish the dog by pulling all its teeth?!! 

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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2013, 07:09:04 PM »
Lemme get this straight...

11 year old dog is deaf, so cannot hear the child in his vicinity
child falls on deaf dog, scaring the crap out of it
dog bites child out of (literally) blind fear

Sooo... instead of teaching the child to be more careful around the dog because it is old and deaf, the solution is to punish the dog by pulling all its teeth?!! 

wow


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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2013, 08:09:38 PM »
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and was recently convinced by his vet to undergo a "k9 disarming procedure" as an alternative to euthanasia.

That's the part that got me the most. "...convinced by his vet..."

I swear to you, some things should be grounds for malpractice in veterinary medicine!!! As in losing-their-license malpractice!

But that's just an animal. Right? *smh*
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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2013, 12:09:25 AM »
Lemme get this straight...

11 year old dog is deaf, so cannot hear the child in his vicinity
child falls on deaf dog, scaring the crap out of it
dog bites child out of (literally) blind fear

Sooo... instead of teaching the child to be more careful around the dog because it is old and deaf, the solution is to punish the dog by pulling all its teeth?!! 

wow


Lazy parents.  Azzhole vet. 



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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2013, 03:36:15 PM »
OMG! I was told that this procedure is done on cats TOO!

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‏@AskTheCatDoctor Unfortunately they've done this to both dogs and cats for years.

OMG, OMG, OMG!


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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2013, 04:19:46 PM »
Just when I thought declawing was bad enough, humanity gives me another reason to hate it.
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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2013, 10:51:07 PM »
Just when I thought declawing was bad enough, humanity gives me another reason to hate it.

The more I ask about this, the more common I'm finding it to be. Some kind of backroom, dirty BIG secret! This is depressing.

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‏@SarahDogExpert Oh, this has been done for years - as long as I have been training, I've heard of it, so 25+ yrs. Not a fan.
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"Thorns may hurt you, men desert you, sunlight turn to fog; but you're never friendless ever, if you have a dog."

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Re: Have any of you ever heard of THIS?
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2013, 12:39:11 AM »
I did hear of it years ago... but can't remember what the circumstances were, that I was reading about it.  It goes on the list with declawing and debarking.   censored
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