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Title: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: CarnivorousCritter on January 09, 2012, 05:44:00 PM
Just another day in Purina-land -- still more coming in with the usual.... maggots, vomiting, "webbing"... this isn't a fluke. Too many varities  being complained about, too.   http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/ralston.html
How many have to die first?  How many HAVE because people aren't hopping on the Internet??? 
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: CarnivorousCritter on January 09, 2012, 06:02:54 PM
Filled out a complaint.


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How many animals have to DIE before consumers with pets are INFORMED of this by the worthless media and others who are more concerned about their precious advertisers and kickbacks? Anyone notice who's commercials are airing with that Rin Tin Tin movie lately?
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/ralston.html

Consequence:
Thousands of pets will CONTINUE to suffer and can easily DIE if people keep OBLIVIOUSLY watching those commercials and it will all be swept under the rug!! 

Hopefully at least someone will read it. 
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: The Kittens on January 10, 2012, 05:37:37 AM
Put it on their Facebook site, where someone will actually see it, and have to respond, or, go to change.org and start a petition. I would also write a letter to your editor, of your local paper.  Call the TV stations, they advertise, per say, they want stories. Put an ad, in your local newspaper, in the pet section. The key, is to get the public's attention, then, Purina has to respond.   >:( TexasFlag bumpgif

Or, write something up, and Bump, will post it on their FB site, he has no fear, he keeps BB on their toes, mol. :D
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 10, 2012, 07:58:52 PM
LOTS of complaints, concerning Purina products.  Toooooo many to just be coincidence.  IMHO
I only recently because familiar with consumeraffairs.com.  Looks like people may be Googling for info and finding others in their shoes. 
How many are NOT looking for info though...and their pets will continue to suffer? 

Not to go toooo off topic, but... when people don't feel well, they almost always assume it was something they ate.  To ME, that doesn't seem to be the norm for people and their pets.  I find that odd. 
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: CarnivorousCritter on January 10, 2012, 08:19:57 PM
TexasFlag bumpgif

Or, write something up, and Bump, will post it on their FB site, he has no fear, he keeps BB on their toes, mol. :D

Bump, wanna post that link,  and maybe a summary like you do with truth about pet foods emails?  thumbsup1  cat4

...  
How many are NOT looking for info though...and their pets will continue to suffer?  

Not to go toooo off topic, but... when people don't feel well, they almost always assume it was something they ate.  To ME, that doesn't seem to be the norm for people and their pets.  I find that odd.  

It's On topic. You're right. what's the FIRST thing we think, and an MD asks for vomiting & diarreah?  It's common sense.

It's not odd in pet owners' world because ... just look through the comments....and keep reading on down further....

 How many of those people took their animals to their vet multiple times with the symptoms and food was never asked about, even considered a possibility?
This is another perfect illustration of the severe problem with the conflict of interest I keep harping on.... and the trust...

 The reality is that people and these pets are, in fact, at the total mercy of commercial pet food companies for as long as it's allowed to continue UNLESS they either go digging on the net or seek second opinions & are fortunate to find a Diamond-in-the-rough veterinarian not "under THE influence".
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 10, 2012, 08:23:29 PM

The reality is that people and these pets are, in fact, at the total mercy of commercial pet food companies for as long as it's allowed to continue UNLESS they either go digging on the net or seek second opinions & are fortunate to find a Diamond-in-the-rough veterinarian not "under THE influence".


Said...perfectly!   thumbsup1

Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 10, 2012, 08:26:19 PM
With the current Purina complaints we have been running across lately...2007 replay?

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Dogs keep dying: Too many owners remain unaware of toxic dog food
By Susan S. Lang
Even though Diamond, Country Value and Professional brand dog foods have been recalled for containing highly toxic aflatoxins, they have caused an estimated 100 dog deaths in recent weeks, say Cornell University veterinarians, who are growing increasingly alarmed. Some kennels and consumers around the nation remain unaware of the tainted food, which may have been shipped to more than two dozen countries, and as a result, they continue to give dogs food containing a lethal toxin.

To better screen affected dogs so they can be treated as soon as possible, Cornell veterinarians report that they now have a new test, adapted from one used in humans, to accurately assess aflatoxin poisoning in dogs (see companion story). Currently, about two-thirds of dogs that show symptoms after eating the tainted food die.


http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Jan06/dogs.dying.ssl.html
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Pookie on January 11, 2012, 08:25:21 AM
You know, yesterday I took a quick look at RodentPro and Hare-Today to see what the options are, because I'm getting tired of trying to find something that Pookie will eat, can tolerate, and DOESN'T have some sort of problem.

I'd been giving him Natural Balance Ltd Ingredient chicken & green pea wet as part of his rotation.  The last batch I bought, I had to take back because after eating one can he got very burpy.  Sometimes that happens, though this was a bit more than normal, but given the complaints I've seen on their website I wasn't taking any chances.  So that's now out.

I also feed Nature's Variety Instinct rabbit wet -- can't find it anywhere now because apparently the manufacturer is having trouble getting the rabbit.  I'm at a loss . . . rabbits breed like . . . well . . . rabbits, so how can there be a shortage?!?!  The dog and cat canned foods are the same (according to NV -- the dogs are getting more taurine) so I can give him the dog canned, but I'm not entirely comfortable with it.  And a couple years ago, when all I could feed his sister was the NV Instinct duck, there was a shortage. 

So now I'm down to a rotation of 4 cans (one of which is the Instinct rabbit dog wet food, and another that I have to bribe him to eat).  I may end up going whole prey just because this is getting ridiculous.  I hadn't planned on it, but I'm running out of ideas.  It seems like every time I find something he'll eat and can tolerate, whoops! there's an issue with the manufacturer.  They seriously need to get their acts together, or it's gonna cost them a lot more than they think.

Ok.  Rant over.  Sorry if I'm off-topic.
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 11, 2012, 11:57:28 AM
That was a good rant, Pookie.  :-*

IMHO, those of us that are feeding manufactured food, are pretty much feeding our furkids the lessor of the available evils.   pullingouthair



Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: CarnivorousCritter on January 11, 2012, 12:18:05 PM
 grouphug Pookie.

FWIW, have read good things about Stella & Chewey's -- and Weruva's canned, see potato starch in them but that may be just to thicken the gravy (just a guess tho; sometimes I take some water from pot of boiling potatoes & add to gravy instead of corn starch to thicken it so maybe that's what they do if they use potato for the dog foods?) 
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Pookie on January 11, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
Thanks, Lola!  Thanks, CC!

I do give him Weruva on occasion, as a bedtime snack (it gets spread out over a couple of days), but I thought I read somewhere that's it's a bit low in calories, so I wasn't sure if it should be a main part of his rotation.

I've tried the Stella and Chewy's . . . not sure he likes it.  I actually just gave him half a patty this weekend, and he only ate maybe half of it, but it's possible he wasn't as hungry as he was acting (he'd been giving me "the stare" and got very excited while it was rehydrating), or it was very filling.  Or maybe he was disappointed because he thought Mommy was giving him a freeze-dried treat instead of this wet stuff.  Sigh . . .

He's eating the feeder mice like a champ now, though.  I can't believe how fast he eats them - I'm still drying my hands from washing them, and he comes in the room -- all done!
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 11, 2012, 02:03:03 PM
I get the best all around "feeling" from Weruva foods.  My first  thumbsup1 was that they don't manufacture ANY dry kibble.  For that reason alone, I support them.  
They explained their use of tuna (somewhere)...that made sense.  (Yet, I still don't feed any of their fish flavors.) Something to do with the fish food chain.  Not including fish "parts."  Where they get their fish.  Yadda, yadda, yadda.  Unfortunately I can't remember the exact details, or where I read their explanation.   :-[
They are realllllllly nice folks and do answer emails, if anyone wants to get accurate info.  
There food is lower in calories, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.  ??
Weruva is one of the foods that is often in rotation.  
Originally, the majority of our bunch, only liked pate foods.  After enticing them with a food topper...Weruva has ended up being one of their favorites.  
Haven't tried Stella and Chewy's.
Have Before Grain, on order, for the first time.
I'm "over" only buying food that comes in larger cans.
I would love to try feeder mice, if I could force myself to stomach it.  For 7 felines, I think that would be just a bit out of my price range also. I'm soooo jealous of you, Pookie.



Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Pookie on January 11, 2012, 04:37:15 PM
If it makes you feel any better, Lola, the first time I gave him a mouse, my stomach felt a bit queasy . . . so I do my best not to look while I'm thawing.  And I'm so busy concentrating on tuning him out while he's demanding that I thaw the mouse faster, that I don't really think about it too much now.  Though I have to say, I don't actually see him eat it . . . he grabs it, goes to his "den" (under a piece of furniture) and eats it there.

I've been getting them at Petco, which is not cheap, but for the occasional snack it's fine.  If you were able to get all 7 to eat the mice, you're best bet would be to order them from RodentPro or Hare-Today -- the prices looked pretty reasonable and you get more for your money.

You can also get feeder rats (small or large) at Petco, too, but there are some lines I don't think I can cross.  Rats just creep me out, dead or not.  Yuck!
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: CarnivorousCritter on January 18, 2012, 07:20:25 PM
Ho hum, just another normal day --  >:(

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I bought two bags of Purina Dog Chow with the Tin Tin Ad on them because they were so inexpensive. My dog has been sick for three days now since he started eating the stuff and I have to suspect the dog food. Besides him being sick, I am sick of cleaning up dog puke form my carpets.

Ray of Gastonia, NC

Sorry for the "Rin tin tin" reference in another post.  That new movie is apparently named "Tin Tin".


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1/18/12
We have always fed all 8 of our dogs Purina dog chow or a Purina made product. Well, we won't anymore. Our 13-year old Weimaraner became violently ill with vomit and had diarrhea with blood. They had to be taken to the vet, while now, I have another one starting to show the exact same symptoms.

I called the 1-800-7 Purina consumer number and I was informed that they had received no complaints about any of their products. I informed the CSR that I was making a complaint and also requested that they send me a packet so I could send the remaining dog food in to be tested.I will never feed any Purina product to any of my dogs again.

More under these...
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 18, 2012, 07:56:38 PM
And I'm so busy concentrating on tuning him out while he's demanding that I thaw the mouse faster, that I don't really think about it too much now. 

Tuning him out.   funny2
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 18, 2012, 07:59:27 PM
Ho hum, just another normal day --  >:(



Even if a person assumes some of the complaints aren't legit...too many to ignore.  There is DEFINITELY a problem.  IMHO 
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Middle Child on January 18, 2012, 09:17:35 PM
I gave my friend this link when it was first posted.  Thank goodness she read it, and decided to stop feeding her dog this Purina crap.  I saw her in the grocery store parking lot the other day and she told me she was trying Newman's Own, which our local Hannaford carries.  Now if I could only get her to feed her cat something decent. I think she's feeding him Deli-cat..also a Purina food.

I have another friend, not local, who feeds her cats fancy feast (also made by purina) canned and Purina ONE dry.  I keep trying to get her to ixnay  ALL the Purina crap.  She insists she likes the Purina ONE turkey and rice "because it doesn't contain corn or by products".  I don't know why she thinks that.  I not only gave her the link to the purina ONE site, I copied over  the ingredient list of the two Purina ONE lines that are turkey and rice, they are both full of corn and by products. Maybe it will make a difference, I don't know.

I hate Purina more each day.
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: CarnivorousCritter on January 18, 2012, 09:39:28 PM
I have another friend, not local, who feeds her cats fancy feast (also made by purina) canned and Purina ONE dry.  I keep trying to get her to ixnay  ALL the Purina crap.  She insists she likes the Purina ONE turkey and rice "because it doesn't contain corn or by products". 

MC, wondering if your very first though was the same as mine -- SHE should eat it. 

Incredible how even after 2007, people still need to learn the hard way first.  :(
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 19, 2012, 01:24:23 PM
Most recent Purina complaint:

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My dog has been eating Purina One Chicken and Rice since we got him about a year and a half ago, when he was two years old. Upon opening a brand new bag last week, he began vomiting every time he ate and would go two days without touching his food. We were very concerned about his health and before we took him to the vet, we looked online to see if we could find anything about a possible food recall and instead we found this! We immediately bought a more expensive, organic food (Nature's Variety from Petland) and tried it with our dog.
He is eating regularly and back to his old self. We checked the bag of Purina but did not see anything visibly wrong with it. However, I truly believe that the food was the cause. I spoke with Purina and she refunded the money of the dog food without questions (probably because they deal with this often). I will tell everyone I know about this experience and encourage them not to buy Purina products. We are so happy to have our dog healthy again.
Chelsea of Athens, oh

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We too have had a sick kitty, diagnosed with kidney disease. He's only six years old! It's basically the same story as everyone else on this website, no apparent health problems ever. We fed him Purina Kit & Kaboodle. He was running around healthy one day, and then the next day he was lethargic and throwing up. I called the 1-800 number for Purina and reported this incident and was told that their food is tested on a regular basis and there are no current recalls for this food.

I told them I wanted to report this as I don't want anyone else to have to go through what we have this week. My children and I had to make the decision to put kitty to sleep last night. His kidneys weren't ever going to work on their own again. My sister told me her cat is now doing the same thing after eating Purina One cat food. What is happening? How many of our animals have to die before something is done about this?

Becky of Castle Rock, CO

Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 19, 2012, 01:26:12 PM
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I bought two bags of Purina Dog Chow with the Tin Tin Ad on them because they were so inexpensive. My dog has been sick for three days now since he started eating the stuff and I have to suspect the dog food. Besides him being sick, I am sick of cleaning up dog puke form my carpets.

Ray of Gastonia, NC

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We have always fed all 8 of our dogs Purina dog chow or a Purina made product. Well, we won't anymore. Our 13-year old Weimaraner became violently ill with vomit and had diarrhea with blood. They had to be taken to the vet, while now, I have another one starting to show the exact same symptoms.

I called the 1-800-7 Purina consumer number and I was informed that they had received no complaints about any of their products. I informed the CSR that I was making a complaint and also requested that they send me a packet so I could send the remaining dog food in to be tested.I will never feed any Purina product to any of my dogs again.

elizabeth of williamstown, KY
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 19, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
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I called the 1-800-7 Purina consumer number and I was informed that they had received no complaints about any of their products. I informed the CSR that I was making a complaint and also requested that they send me a packet so I could send the remaining dog food in to be tested.I will never feed any Purina product to any of my dogs again.

elizabeth of williamstown,

I'm thinking I would send the food to be tested to a place NOT affiliated with Purina.
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: The Kittens on January 19, 2012, 04:37:25 PM
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/ralston.html

CC, is this what you wanted? What else is it, you wanted me to do?   :-* thumbsup1 Bumpurr1 TexasFlag bumpgif
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 27, 2012, 09:38:41 PM
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We Purchased a large bag of Purina Smartblend to feed our dogs and soon found our rat terrier with diarrhea and vomiting. We immediately took her to the vet. After getting back and inspecting the food, there were larvae and white larvae "homes", and a type of small beetle or wheat bug consistently throughout the food. The next day, our younger dog, a Shiba Inu, presented with severe belly pain, whimpering to the touch and walking with his back arched and legs straightened as if it was painful to walk. Immediately, we took him to the vet also. My fiancee is currently there now as I write this. I documented the infestation with pictures and photos. I'm collecting a sample of the food and bugs, and freezing them.

Gregory of Las Vegas, NV on Jan. 25, 2012
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on January 27, 2012, 09:41:47 PM
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Wow! After reading all the recent complaints about Purina One, I am convinced there is a problem with their food. I also purchased a bag of Purina One from Wall Mart on 1-21-2012 and immediately after feeding it to our dog he became sick. This went on a few days, as we taught he had a virus. My wife was going to take him to the vet but went and purchased another brand of food and now is back to his old self. The makers of Purina One needs to check their product. I think you have a major problem

Mitchell of Cartersville, GA on Jan. 27, 2012

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We have been feeding Purina One Smart blend Chicken and Rice to our bichon for several months. She won't eat the food from the last bag that we bought. She ate the first couple of bowls then starting gagging. Now she just runs to the bowl but then stares at the food. Then she gives me a dirty look. She has been lethargic and just a little "off". I am on my way to buy new food, not Purina brand.
M.L. of Durant, OK on Jan. 27, 2012
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: CarnivorousCritter on February 02, 2012, 01:45:40 PM
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/ralston.html

CC, is this what you wanted? What else is it, you wanted me to do?   :-* thumbsup1 Bumpurr1 TexasFlag bumpgif

Hi Bump   I didn't see this post  :-[  Yes, that is great   :-* thumbsup1


The stories keep pouring in.  I wonder how many people can afford to have tests done so that they can really find out?

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She was my 20-year-old daughter's baby girl and we are all devastated. We had an autopsy (necropsy) performed and the results are: "Renal failure with hyperkalemia, suspected Vitamin D". Vitamin D can be formulated incorrectly when added to the dog food formula causing hyperkalemia and subsequent renal and total organ failure and hemorrhage. Vitamin D is also used as a rodenticide "Vitamin D Rodenticide" which causes renal and organ failure and hemorrhage. The lab where she was autopsied does not have the toxicology abilities to specifically test for these toxins. The animal pathologist made the determination by the physical results of her organs.
I asked the Vet and the Pathologist if it could be the dog food, they both said we'd see more of this in other dogs. Then I googled the info and end up here this morning.
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http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/ralston.html

Gotta wonder if they're throwing dead poisoned rodents into "food"?  WTH with everything else that gets chucked in there, why not them too...
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Pookie on February 02, 2012, 04:41:54 PM
I just learned something new:  vitamin D can be used to kill rodents!  I've only heard of products with Vitamin K being used.

Sorry, I digress . . .   :-[
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on February 04, 2012, 08:01:59 AM
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Gotta wonder if they're throwing dead poisoned rodents into "food"?  WTH with everything else that gets chucked in there, why not them too...

That could be an actual possibility.  The 4D's...

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Independent renderers are reported to accept for processing such items as road kill, euthanized shelter dogs and cats, and other unappetizing ingredients. These items are not supposed to find their way into the food chain but are theoretically converted for use in fertilizers and industrial applications. However, over the years there have been numerous unproven reports of this material being processed into dog and cat food. The Center for Veterinary Medicine, a branch of the Food and Drug Administration, admits that dead dogs and cats are commonly rendered, and although there is no legal prohibition against it, they do not “condone” the practice.
Quote above from Dr. Jean Hofve
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: CarnivorousCritter on February 05, 2012, 03:57:15 PM
Don't be sorry, Pookie.   It's certainly on topic.  Guess we'll never stop unearthing new (actually old)  "secrets"...  :(


Here's one from today's batch:
Shanel of Shelby, MI on Feb. 4, 2012Satisfaction Rating: 1/5
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I have been feeding my cats Purina cat indoor formula for 5 years now. Ever since I put them on the food, they have been throwing up if not every day but every other day. I have spent hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars on vet bill and medications on treatment that never even worked. I thought that maybe it was because they were Mainecoon and med hair. But after extensive research and finding thousands of other customers online for years having the same issues, I was convinced.


Then what threw me over the edge was my friend called me up very concerned about her 6-year-old cat that she just switched his food to Purina cat indoor formula. She said that he has been throwing up 2-3 times a day and is scared, because he has never thrown up out of the 6 years she has owned him. I have realized it is not our cats, but it's this product and has been this product for years and no one has done nothing about it!

Sickening...
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Pookie on February 05, 2012, 04:32:52 PM
Reading Shanel's quote . . . that was me a few years ago before finding catinfo.org (any dry food, not that specific one).  I wonder if there's a way to point her in that direction.
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: CarnivorousCritter on February 05, 2012, 06:02:12 PM
Pookie, I just tried again  (the one submitted last week wasn't accepted.)

Posted this
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All of this is one big secret because of advertising revenue, funding  & kickbacks,  so, like me, all these people had to find it all out the hard way.

For starters, read the paper on the Harvard Law School website  -- links aren't allowed here so just google "Pets Ring Dings" and the "Confused Consumers" Leda Harvard Law School paper is first. It is thorough but just the tip on the iceberg.

Forward it to every pet owner you know and share the facts on why we need to be diligent regarding the "stuff" passing for pet food for carnivores, why so many veterinarians won't blame commercial pet food, and why people need to be reminded of what happened in 2007 over and over and over and stop being so trusting of industries which people  *think*  have regulation,  until it's too late.

  Just read the ingredient labels and look into what that stuff actually is, and where it comes from. Google "pet food 4 Ds" too.   More research will tell us that the bigger the brand "name", the worse the ingredients. Wonder why that is?  Google "Dr Elizabeth Hodgkins Testimony" and read that, too.
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on February 05, 2012, 06:46:55 PM
Reading Shanel's quote . . . that was me a few years ago before finding catinfo.org (any dry food, not that specific one).  I wonder if there's a way to point her in that direction.

Yup, and that is why I am sooooooo anal about dry "food." 
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on February 23, 2012, 07:24:35 PM
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Norma of Nashville, TN on Feb. 18, 2012

I have a previous complaint on here regarding the death and necropsy results of my beautiful little 4 month old Australian Shepherd, Cheyenne, after feeding Purina One food at the end of January 2012. This complaint is regarding Purina's blatant disregard for the welfare of our babies. I have been in contact with Purina for several weeks and they have obtained vet and necropsy results. The results of her necropsy were "Vitamin D Toxicity" (Vitamin D3 is a supplement in Purina's food). It was an urgent matter for me to get the food to the vet in order for Purina's rep to pick it up for testing. "Due to an oversight", Purina never picked up the food, but an investigator from the TN Department of Agriculture did!

I have been extremely persistent with this company and continue to promise them I am not going away. They continue to send me to their claims carrier, Sedgwick! This has nothing to do with money or claims. But my persistence is about Purina doing the right thing and admitting they have an issue with their latest food batches.

My last conversation with Terry ** in Consumer Affairs at Purina wasand I will quote her "We have had no other complaints regarding our food." I believe my words were, "You are not only a liar, but a ** liar"! I pressed her until she admitted they had not tested any of the food in the lot numbers provided but "their manufacturing processes have not had any problems".

I am paying for testing at Michigan State University labs on Cheyenne's kidney for a Vitamin D level which will take several weeks. Terry ** in her syrupy sweet "you've been on my heart voice" asked me if I would please share those results. "You will receive those results via an attorney, because I am not going to deal with you or this company and I am not going away."

Consumers unite! Go to their Facebook page and post! Call your FDA investigator. Call your Department of Agriculture! Continue to call Purina! Continue to warn other pet owners! Do not take Purina's money as it prevents you from filing further suit. We must contact senators, congressman, etc. until we change the regulation of pet food.

My words to other consumers are: Each and every time you call, Purina has more information to use in their defense in case of a lawsuit, so choose your words carefully. We are emotional over the loss of our babies and being out of control with words is very easy. P. S. My dogs are happily eating a raw diet and loving it. I'm just so sorry I didn't do this before!


http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/ralston.html
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Shadow on February 23, 2012, 11:56:26 PM
Wow!! sounds like this lady is going to get something done!!
Vitamin D toxicity!!  bangshead bangshead  so very sad :(
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: CarnivorousCritter on March 03, 2012, 11:31:51 AM
Ann of Westerville, oh on Feb. 29, 2012
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I posted in December 2011 that my cat suddenly became ill after eating Purina Kit & Kaboodle cat food. She had been eating that food for 8 years, ... I'm lucky my cat lived, as I've read all the horrible stories of those that lost their beloved pets. My heart goes out to you all.

I contacted Purina within 24 hrs of the vet trip, and was told no complaints had been made. I spent the past 2 1/2 months with phone calls with Purina, sent them a sample of the food to test ...No chemical testing was performed on food and I was told they don't do that, but I could at my own expense. Again, Purina stated that they haven't received any other complaints made to them on Kit & Kaboodle cat food, and explained that there is any "proof" that the food caused my cat's near-death experience. In the next breath, Purina representative made me an offer to pay half of the vet bill expense incurred from the experience if I'd close my case...

In closing, I want you all to know that with every phone call I made to Purina I informed them of this website and the other complaints posted here. Each time they said they don't use this site, and that the postings I informed them about could be viewed by Purina Company as slanderous. I did my best …but have learned the sad truth, nothing will become of our complaints. No recall is being made as there isn't any proof or evidence with the food. I don't know what else I can do except move on from this now. It's a sad situation and has caused a lot of pain to innocent pets, ... I wish I could have done more, and worry about others going through this. Please know I will keep all of you in my thoughts and prayers.
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Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Middle Child on March 08, 2012, 06:19:05 AM
It's really heart breaking that this just keeps happening, and Purina takes no steps to make changes.  I just don't understand why, according to these testimonies people KEEP feeding the food, even after it's obvious the food made their pets sick.

I have tried until I am blue in the face to get people I know who feed purina products to stop using them. But until it happens to their pet, it's not important, I guess.
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on March 08, 2012, 02:04:28 PM
Here are a few recent complaints.  I can't update every day...makes me sick to my stomach.
Bolding and added smilies are mine.
I am just a litttttttle stunned that some of these people still WANT to feed Purina products.  They knew enough to find the website with all the complaints.  They were ticked enough to post their complaint.  Did they not read ANY of the other complaints posted??  We aren't talking a complaint here and there or a minor sickness....MASSIVE complaints and DEAD pets.   bangshead

Shari of Land O Lakes, FL on March 2, 2012

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We just lost Liza. She was well one day, sick the next, and dead that night. I thought maybe it was a wolf spider, but I looked that spider up. It doesn't kill cats, dogs, or people. My other cats, all of whom have been on Purina all their lives, were turning their noses up at all the food. Then, someone told me about the problems with Purina. Did I poison my cat by feeding her this food? Tomorrow, I am switching cat food brands until Purina can guarantee that their food is free of harmful effects.  Doh1

Getrude of Austin, TX on March 3, 2012

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Purina One recently changed formulas to Smart Blend. After the first few days of Smart Blend, my dogs became extreme ill, vomiting and diarrhea that would not stop. I didn't think it was the food. Purina never gave us any problems in the past. Vet said that liver enzymes suggested poisoning of some sort. As a precaution, I put the dogs back on the old formula.  Doh1 After a few days, they got better. When we could no longer find the original formula, we tried Smart Blend again, thinking it probably wasn't the food. Within days, they were vomiting and had uncontrollable diarrhea again! We finally found a store with three bags of the original version, which we'll use to transition to another brand. After reading these posts, I feel lucky that my dogs are still alive! Something has to be done! The Smart Blend formula is obviously toxic and deadly. Please do not feed Purina One Smart Blend to your dogs!

Daria of Fernandina Beach, FL on March 3, 2012

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My 13 year old cat started vomiting and became very ill after eating Purina One Beyond cat food for a couple of days. We have spent a large amount of money at the vet to try to help him recover. I found the food I had purchased a week before was infested with worms and moths which did not come from my home! My cat's test results have not shown any problem that would cause this. I ordered a D3 test because I am wondering if the food also contained toxic levels of Vitamin D in addition to the worms and moths!

Rachel of Portsmouth, OH on March 4, 2012

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My mini Schnauzer, Jake Man, passed away on Tuesday, after displaying very similar symptoms as described by many here. We changed Jake's food approximately one month ago. The last bag we purchased, and will ever purchase, was about two weeks ago. There was a small change in his behavior, which was barely noticeable at first. He became less playful, and seemed to always want more water than normal. On Monday, he drank 6 bowls of water (unusual for him). After eating, he vomited. I was concerned, but at that time, he was still fairly normal acting. The next morning, at around 6:30, I found him still. He did not respond to my voice. Finally, after several attempts, I was able to get him to wake up. He tried to get up and walk, but his legs wobbled out from underneath him.

After several attempts to walk, he rolled to me using his head and neck muscles to do so. We immediately took him to the vet, where they diagnosed that he was severely dehydrated. They tested his kidneys, and ran several panels of blood work. The results were that he had three high levels in the kidneys that were toxic. He remained in the hospital on an IV, because he was so dehydrated. At 5:15 PM, he had his first seizure, and then his second at around 6:45 PM. Sadly, he passed away at 7:00 PM. I cannot say for sure that this was caused by the dog food, but there are several very similar stories with similar symptoms, with one common factor, being that each of these animals was eating Purina food.

Purina needs to recall their products, and figure out if the product is affecting our pets. Nothing I do can ever bring back my family friend, and pet, but these pets are family members. Jake belonged to my six year old son, who adored him. The entire family loved him. Jake was only 3 and 1/2 years old, and should never have to suffer this type of death. The label is Purina Alpo Come and Get it (new and improved grill-icious) 16 lb bag (code 50000-58090).


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Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Middle Child on March 15, 2012, 10:39:15 PM
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Christina of butler, NJ on March 14, 2012
Satisfaction Rating: 1/5

I have been using Purina Pro plan cat and dog food for nine years now. Just a few days ago, I opened my usual case of Proplan Turkey and Rice cat food. Within a few hours, my cats are puking and having diarrhea. My one cat is actually in the hospital now for a possible pancreas infection. I really feel that I have had two healthy cats for nine years now and all of a sudden I open a new batch of food and they are both sick? Something is not right here. I hope and pray that my Tobie will be okay. I have trusted this brand of food for all the years I have had my cats. I would hope that Purina will have this batch tested as soon as possible in case a recall is needed. The batch number is 20091160l5dz60656, exp date of January 2014 purchased from PetSmart in Paramus, NJ.


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Janet of Saskatoon, SK on March 14, 2012
Satisfaction Rating: 2/5

I have been feeding my cats with Purina Friskies tin cat food for years. About a year ago, I noticed that when I opened the tins, the food did not have that nice fresh smell to it. It didn't seem to matter what flavor it was. It all smelled the same. I can't describe the smell, but it wasn't a food smell. I always bought a lot of beef and whitefish and tuna. They do not make the beef because of problems at the border with beef now, so I stuck with the whitefish and tuna. My cat just stopped eating it. I opened a tin she took a smell and walked away from it, so I was throwing tin after tin in the garbage. I have contacted Purina a few times, and asked them if they had changed the formula for their cat food, and the agent said no, and they weren't getting any complaints about the food.

The company sent me out free coupons to replace some of the tins I threw out. It was nice of them to send me coupons, but that wasn't what I really wanted. I just wanted to find an answer to the problem. Was it the very thin tins that they were using, the storage of the tins, etc? I was concerned about the tins because if they were dropped or banged, the lid would pop. I just had a feeling that maybe the tins were contaminating the food, and was hoping someone would start investigating the problem. I am trying different brands of cat food which I find have much stronger tins. I would like to know if others are having the same problem as I am with the Friskies tin food, and has there been any recalls on cat food lately.

How can the CSRs continue to blatantly lie like that?  (bolding is mine)

I continue to warn and beg people I know who use Purina products to read this site and stop feeding Purina.  Many say they same thing "you only hear about the complaints"  "It's just those few....not that big a deal"   I bet it's a big deal to those who have posted, and have lost their pets and are faced with huge vet bills. 

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/ralston.html
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on March 16, 2012, 11:41:03 PM
Amazing (and not in a good way) how many people have mentioned that Purina CS has said they haven't heard or received any complaints.   catsterlame

It isn't like the complaints are all written by a handful of people posting over and over again.  It is pretty easy to see that the posts are written by mannnnnnnny different individuals.  And most of the complaints are about some pretty SERIOUS health issues...and death. 
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on April 25, 2012, 11:10:31 PM
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C of beavercreek, OH on April 20, 2012
I recently acquired a rescue Great Dane. She is by far the largest of my six dogs, so I went to the store to get her some large breed food and decided on Purina. For several days, I mixed it with the food I received from the shelter and noticed she had diarrhea. I took in a stool sample, and it was clean. The vet said perhaps it was the stress of a new environment. She is thin, and the vet said she needed to gain some weight, so I should gradually increase her intake as well.

I started feeding her more of the Purina, but the diarrhea did not go away for over a week. Over the weekend, I ran out of my regular food for the other dogs and decided to give Purina as well till I got to the store. Lo and behold, after two days, I have six adult dogs--all of them are housebroken--now having uncontrollable diarrhea in the house. They are all drinking water like mad, too. I will never buy Purina products again. Period.
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Middle Child on April 26, 2012, 06:24:15 AM
Big sigh.....
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Lola on April 23, 2013, 05:55:45 PM
Haven't checked the complaints in a while... kinda wish I had skipped it today.

563!  http://www.consumeraffairs.com/pets/ralston.html

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Recently, I went to Purina's website and submitted a simple question - does your cat food have any ingredients that originate in China? They never answered my question and sent me a link to one of their websites that assures customers how much they do to ensure their cat food is safe, etc. etc. - spin, spin, spin.
Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: DeeDee on April 23, 2013, 06:38:45 PM
Haven't checked the complaints in a while... kinda wish I had skipped it today.



Dannyboy was eating Purina Pro Plan when he developed his food allergies. They didn't have 15 million different formulas back then, but they still use some of the SAME carpy ingredients. AND I still wouldn't give it knowing what I found out when the problems first started.

Some of this garbage would probably be something Barkly actually would eat just to be perverse, but he'll never get a chance to try it. Anyone in RV parks that wants to give them a treat, gets one handed to them, so I know what's going in them there too. They're not getting GMO grains and that's that.

Anyone wanna bet against my contention that those grains Purina uses are GMOs?

Title: Re: SHOULD be Recall - WHY Not?
Post by: Amber on April 23, 2013, 08:21:57 PM
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How can the CSRs continue to blatantly lie like that?

Its what they are paid and required to do. When one works in a call center for any large company, he/she is told what to say in certain situations. Going off script or admitting something you are not supposed to can not only lead to termination, but legal action depending on the contract one signs to work for said company.