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Fruits And Veggies For Dogs
Lola:
As most of you already know... I have been feeding Lacy dog a raw diet for a while. I feed her from a variety of sources ... raw meat from Hare-Today, dehydrated raw, commercial frozen raw, etc. There is so much info out there (not everyone says the same thing) that I want to be sure that she gets everything she is needing. I mix her varieties up a LOT!
I spent SO much time keeping veggies and carbs away from the cats, that I have to remind myself that some foods that are bad for cats are very good for dogs.
A few snips I found interesting. Bolding is mine...
--- Quote ---If you are feeding a raw diet, you may already know that the commonly followed ratio of meat, raw bones and veggies is 50/25/25.
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--- Quote ---Because protein takes longer to digest, if you feed fruit and protein together, fruit may start to ferment, creating alcohol.
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--- Quote ---One of the reasons why some dogs refuse to eat vegetables is because in natural settings wild canines eat plant material pre-digested.
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--- Quote ---For some reason, dogs do not have a good ability to digest carrots, especially if they are coarsely grated or in chunks. Some sources are also concerned about the levels of sugar in carrots
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Most know to avoid onions.
There is a lot of info to read. The full article can be read here: http://peterdobias.com/blogs/blog/11014993-what-veggies-are-good-for-dogs
DeeDee:
Since I have to cook veggies for Vlad now, I quit worrying about keeping it separate from their meat. Raw veggie/fruit lunch just wasn't working for him anymore. He seems fine again now that he's getting mostly low-heat cooked for fresh and frozen, or some organic canned that I rinse to remove more potassium.
Except for the organic canned that I can always find at Aldi, they're eating seasonal organics. I can always find fresh, organic carrots at Aldi though, but I never know what I'm going to find the next 6 weeks in the produce or frozen section. This is working for them. Two meals a day, at least 2 poops a day. No burping or indigestion unless he has had a stressful day and runs out of prednisone by dinnertime. Solution for that is simple. Give him another mg of prednisone.
I've been mixing up veg/fruit puree today.
Catgirl64:
Any thoughts on Honest Kitchen to mix with the raw meat? If this works, it would be perfect for me, as I could just set aside some of the chopped up meat when I make cat food to mix with it. With no meat grinder, and no way to get one in the foreseeable future, anything that saves time would be a blessing to me. Dicing up all that meat by hand is quite labor-intensive!
I've pretty much decided against raw on the bone for them right now - Lily is much too fond of hiding her treasures in my bed. Not so bad if it's a beef tendon or bully stick, but I really don't want to lie down and find myself snuggled up to a half-eaten chicken thigh! I'm going to have to find some other way of achieving the correct balance, with foods the dogs are not tempted to carry away from their bowls to eat.
DeeDee:
--- Quote from: Catgirl64 on December 24, 2017, 07:48:42 AM ---Any thoughts on Honest Kitchen to mix with the raw meat? If this works, it would be perfect for me, as I could just set aside some of the chopped up meat when I make cat food to mix with it. With no meat grinder, and no way to get one in the foreseeable future, anything that saves time would be a blessing to me. Dicing up all that meat by hand is quite labor-intensive!
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I know a lot of people that use Honest Kitchen, Sojos, and Dr Harvey's. We use some Dr. Harvey's when we're in the RV. We've got one of the larger refrigerators in ours, but it's still limiting if we're going to be gone for a week because we have to have food too. We just don't feed it all the time because it's price prohibitive since I've got a giant in the house.
--- Quote from: Catgirl64 on December 24, 2017, 07:48:42 AM ---
I've pretty much decided against raw on the bone for them right now - Lily is much too fond of hiding her treasures in my bed. Not so bad if it's a beef tendon or bully stick, but I really don't want to lie down and find myself snuggled up to a half-eaten chicken thigh! I'm going to have to find some other way of achieving the correct balance, with foods the dogs are not tempted to carry away from their bowls to eat.
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I no longer feed ours any bone b/c since he developed Addison's, Vlad has problems digesting bone. It comes out too whole, and I'm not giving him more prednisone just to help digest it. The cortisol that prednisone replaces is a really important part of digestion. So, I use calcium citrate supplements. The formula is 800-1000 mg per pound of meat. I wouldn't worry about it though if you're going to feed one of those other food-mixers.
Catgirl64:
--- Quote from: DeeDee on December 24, 2017, 08:49:04 AM ---I know a lot of people that use Honest Kitchen, Sojos, and Dr Harvey's. We use some Dr. Harvey's when we're in the RV. We've got one of the larger refrigerators in ours, but it's still limiting if we're going to be gone for a week because we have to have food too. We just don't feed it all the time because it's price prohibitive since I've got a giant in the house.
I no longer feed ours any bone b/c since he developed Addison's, Vlad has problems digesting bone. It comes out too whole, and I'm not giving him more prednisone just to help digest it. The cortisol that prednisone replaces is a really important part of digestion. So, I use calcium citrate supplements. The formula is 800-1000 mg per pound of meat. I wouldn't worry about it though if you're going to feed one of those other food-mixers.
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Cost won't be a big issue, at least with Honest Kitchen, as I'm feeding a Chihuahua and a Pomeranian. I'm not familiar with Sojos or Dr. Harvey's, but I will check those out, too. I like the idea of some kind of base mix, as that would make it easier to offer a variety of protein sources.
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