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Supplements / Re: L-lysine
« Last post by Pookie on October 22, 2017, 09:47:19 PM »
One side: who cares what my opinion is about The Conscious Cat? other: Well,if my opinion is at all valuable maybe it matters because....because...in my opinion is she does give misinformation sometimes, which can be dangerous.

Your opinion IS very valuable.  You have extensive experience with cats from various backgrounds, and/or who have had various illnesses, and you have a lot to share.  That information will be very helpful to others, but only if you "pass on what you have learned."   :D
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Supplements / Re: L-lysine
« Last post by Lola on October 22, 2017, 04:17:33 PM »
I have recommended L-lysine to many that have mentioned their cats have "colds."  I have NEVER had one come back and say it didn't work. NONE. 
If the cat is a shelter cat... it is almost a given they have issues.  In my experience.
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Supplements / Re: L-lysine
« Last post by Middle Child on October 22, 2017, 04:13:30 PM »
I remember that. Not a fan of Ingrid, by the way. I keep going back and forth about mentioning it.  One side: who cares what my opinion is about The Conscious Cat? other: Well,if my opinion is at all valuable maybe it matters because....because...in my opinion is she does give misinformation sometimes, which can be dangerous.
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Raw Feeding / Re: When in doubt, throw it out
« Last post by Middle Child on October 22, 2017, 04:10:03 PM »
There are laws against selling out of date products.  Laws or no laws, meat would be the WORST!  IMHO  I understand people are human and make mistakes, but... 3 days!   :o

Yes, they are certainly breaking the law by not taking care to remove expired meat.  In other circumstances i would have taken the time and effort to find someone and make a complaint.  But yesterday the timing was just not right. I was in a hurry on a time line and not willing to stray.  I meant to say something to the check out person, but then I saw to my surprise they now have self check out and the only place there was no long line was self check out so i went there, and forgot about reporting it.
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Raw Feeding / Re: When in doubt, throw it out
« Last post by Lola on October 22, 2017, 04:03:18 PM »
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First I had to pick over all the "use/freeze by 10/18" dates. Considering it was October 21, this was not a good sign.

There are laws against selling out of date products.  Laws or no laws, meat would be the WORST!  IMHO  I understand people are human and make mistakes, but... 3 days!   :o
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Supplements / Re: L-lysine
« Last post by Lola on October 22, 2017, 03:57:34 PM »
At the time of my original post, a VERY dramatic event had occurred in our household.  All of a sudden many of the cats had upper respiratory infections.  IMO ... a misdiagnosis.  Only Arrows (maybe Lola...I would have to check my records) were given antibiotics.  The rest were given L-lysine only, and the symptoms subsided.  <---- The reason I came to the conclusion of a misdiagnosis. 
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Raw Feeding / Re: When in doubt, throw it out
« Last post by Middle Child on October 22, 2017, 12:10:14 PM »
Just a little follow up to say I have let all the annoyance and impatience go.  It's a beautiful Sunday afternoon and all my work was done yesterday (except the chicken breast haha) and I have a roaster in the oven.  I'm sitting out on the porch with the cats reading my book and enjoying the show my hill is putting on.  It's different every day.

Sundays don't get any better than this!  love1
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Raw Feeding / Re: When in doubt, throw it out
« Last post by Middle Child on October 22, 2017, 09:49:11 AM »
Not only that I just took out the chicken breast to cut it up only to discover I'd bought the kind with "up to 15% solution" added.  bangshead bangshead bangshead bangshead bangshead bangshead bangshead bangshead

In teeny teeny tiny letters it says that.  The only reason I even noticed is because...as I was getting ready to open the package I stopped and thought.."did I check the sodium content before I bought this?" and I couldn't remember.  So I checked the sodium content and sure enough 390 mg per serving.

So that I will bring back.  But honestly.  I am too experienced to be caught out like that, but sometimes, when I'm in a rush, or tired, it happens.  TEENY TINY LETTERS.  You'd think they'd have it in BIG letters so people would notice it.  Now they have to give me my money back, AND throw the chicken away.  Their loss.

And now I have no chicken breast to cut up.  I do not feel like going to the store today, it's SUNDAY my rest day. My "I don't have to get dressed" day. Phooey.
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Raw Feeding / When in doubt, throw it out
« Last post by Middle Child on October 22, 2017, 08:46:30 AM »
Painful but true.

Turkey thigh is difficult to find around here.  Only one (of 3) grocery stores carry it. It's not the store I usually shop at, the only thing I buy there is turkey thigh!

I stopped there yesterday and bought 2 packs.  I wasn't pleased with the dates.  First I had to pick over all the "use/freeze by 10/18" dates. Considering it was October 21, this was not a good sign.

Underneath I found a few "use/freeze by 10/23". Still not great but because thigh is so scarce I wanted to have it done before I ran out so I bought two packs, went straight home and cut them up to freeze right away.

But.

One of the packs smelled funny.  This has happened before. Usually I simply bag it up and take it back and get my money back but this time I just wanted to get done and cut it all up, all the time doubting msyelf about it.  The other pack was fine.  I washed the utensils before cutting up the second pack BUT, I forgot to change out the weighing bowl.

I worried about cross contamination all night.

 So this morning I woke up and decided to throw the whole batch away.  All of it.  I can't risk contaminating my cats with bad turkey!

So I'm out the turkey thigh (which is difficult to find) and the money, because I was in too much of a hurry to bring it back yesterday.  Shouldn't HAVE to bring it back but like I said, this is not the first time I have had questionable smelling meat from that store.

It was about $11 worth.

I have about 2 weeks left before I need more, so I'll try again next week.  Wont' go today because I am likely to find the same batch. Yuck.

Incidentally.  I gave Jennie a little cartilage from the second, smelled fine, package.  This morning she had a very smelly poop. So I don't know.  I gave her a whole s.boulardii a half hour before her breakfast and will do that again at lunch and supper, s.boulardii, especially given alone, fights intestinal things.

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Supplements / Re: L-lysine
« Last post by Middle Child on October 22, 2017, 07:48:54 AM »
I didn't look at the link yet, but that's the latest news going around that l-lysine doesn't help herpes and never has. I see it posted all the time in the IBD group.  I do not agree and always say so.

 L-lysine saved Tolly's eyes.


Lactoferrin is the go-to for herpes these days, OR a combination of lactoferrin and l-lysine.

It is my opinion that just like everything else it's been misused (for instance all those stupid treats) and become less effective because the viruses are building a resistance.

As for URI, it's not an antibiotic, so no of course it would cure an URI.  It might help the body stay strong while it's being cured with antibiotics though. 
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