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Title: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Catgirl64 on January 20, 2018, 03:36:44 PM
I was looking at Zoom Groom, but then I found these, and it seems that they would work well on dogs and cats who dislike being brushed.

Has anyone tried a similar product?

https://www.amazon.com/HandsOn-Gloves-Shedding-Shedding-Livestock/dp/B00R3U4WD6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1516483776&sr=8-1&keywords=HandsOn+All-In-One+Bathing+%26+Grooming+Gloves
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Middle Child on January 20, 2018, 04:57:24 PM
Years ago.  Cats were afraid of them.  They hated the Zoom Groom too, though I know many people think it's great. To me it seems to pull the fur out by the roots. I mean..it appears to work by the fur wrapping itself around the little rubber spikes.

I use regular combs..those little black ones that used to get handed out on picture day at school.  And Jennie loves my boar's hair bristle brush that I bought when I was growing my hair out.
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Catgirl64 on January 21, 2018, 03:37:51 AM
Years ago.  Cats were afraid of them.  They hated the Zoom Groom too, though I know many people think it's great. To me it seems to pull the fur out by the roots. I mean..it appears to work by the fur wrapping itself around the little rubber spikes.

I use regular combs..those little black ones that used to get handed out on picture day at school.  And Jennie loves my boar's hair bristle brush that I bought when I was growing my hair out.

I never thought of using a "people brush" on the cats.  I will try that.  I have a boar bristle brush that I never use, so I will dig it out and see how they like it.  I probably should have asked about the gloves in the dog grooming section, as even if the cats dislike them, it would be worth it if they can be used on Bandit, who loves to be stroked, and even behaves well when I bathe him, but tries to bite any grooming tool I use on him.  Because he was two when I got him, I don't know the cause, but he is the only dog I've ever had that a groomer had to muzzle, because he kept trying to grab the clippers when I took him in for a sanitary trim.

Good to know about the Zoom Groom.  I'll cross that off my wish list.  I have enough de-shedding tools.  What I need is something that I can use on the hindquarters and bellies of the cats who don't like their slicker brush.  I will try a comb, but I'm not sure they would like that any better.  I'm just glad that they are not so prone to matting anymore.  It was a terrible problem with Jenny. 
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: DeeDee on January 21, 2018, 09:15:36 AM
I can tell you why they don't like slicker brushes. Try brushing your own hair with one, and make sure you pretend that your hair is as short as theirs near your scalp.

Those gloves with dogs that have the kind of coats poms do? No.

You need a rotating pin undercoat rake:  https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Double-Undercoat-Rake-Rotating/dp/B0002DIRYG
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Catgirl64 on January 21, 2018, 10:23:31 AM
I can tell you why they don't like slicker brushes. Try brushing your own hair with one, and make sure you pretend that your hair is as short as theirs near your scalp.

Those gloves with dogs that have the kind of coats poms do? No.

You need a rotating pin undercoat rake:  https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Double-Undercoat-Rake-Rotating/dp/B0002DIRYG

I have an undercoat rake, but it doesn't have rotating pins.  Maybe that's the secret.

I haven't completely brushed out my own hair with this brush, but I did test the pins on my bare inner arm - a pretty tender spot - and on my scalp before buying it, and picked this one specifically because it didn't hurt at all (most of the others did).  The pins are very fine, very flexible, and not scratchy.  My short-haired cats don't object to it at all, and the long-hairs don't mind, either, as long as I only brush their backs.  They all like to have their backs brushed - it doesn't matter with what.  The place I am having trouble is with the "bloomers" on their back legs, and of course that's the place that is likeliest to tangle if not groomed.  I haven't found any grooming tool yet that they like for their hindquarters.

Shoot.  I was sooo hoping the gloves would be a good idea.  Are there any grooming gloves that do work?   

Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: DeeDee on January 21, 2018, 10:30:16 AM
There are grooming gloves that have wires instead of rubber nubs, but I've never used them.
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: DeeDee on January 21, 2018, 10:35:14 AM
As far as combs, I'd get these:

https://www.amazon.com/Detangling-Pet-Stainless-Removing-Tangles/dp/B077T1LQCV/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004UTDHP2/ref=asc_df_B004UTDHP25344107/

They both have their uses. One to first get through it with the large then smaller teeth. Then the other one to get in even better.

Just like humans with tangle-y hair, it's easier if you start large then move to smaller a little at a time. Plastic combs just build up static, and I was told to not use them since some dogs find it extremely uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Catgirl64 on January 21, 2018, 10:41:01 AM
As far as combs, I'd get these:

https://www.amazon.com/Detangling-Pet-Stainless-Removing-Tangles/dp/B077T1LQCV/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004UTDHP2/ref=asc_df_B004UTDHP25344107/

They both have their uses. One to first get through it with the large then smaller teeth. Then the other one to get in even better.

Just like humans with tangle-y hair, it's easier if you start large then move to smaller a little at a time. Plastic combs just build up static, and I was told to not use them since some dogs find it extremely uncomfortable.

I will try these.  I feel very foolish now, because I have to admit that I have never used a comb on any of my cats, only brushes, coat rakes, and occasionally, a Furminator. 
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Middle Child on January 21, 2018, 11:29:36 AM
I don't like steel combs for cats.  To me that sounds so uncomfortable and I can't see how they can be effective at all. We use these:

https://smile.amazon.com/Hair-Care-4-Pack-Comb-Breakable/dp/B00E669N0M/ref=sr_1_4_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1516555536&sr=8-4&keywords=black+comb

They remove loose fur quite well. Will comb gently through a snarl, (Ootay has long very curly fur), smooth out a thickened spot threatening to become a mat. Can even be used to pick apart a mat, though I prefer finger pulling method.  Easy to clean.

And, judging by my cats', past and present, reactions over all these years, they feel wonderful on the skin.
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: DeeDee on January 21, 2018, 11:49:04 AM
I don't like steel combs for cats.  To me that sounds so uncomfortable and I can't see how they can be effective at all. We use these:



Steel really isn't uncomfortable (a comb is a comb is a comb) unless you let it get so matted that nothing is going to take it out. What's uncomfortable, with ANY grooming tool, is when you hit their skin. I make sure I don't hit skin. It's all in knowing how to use each tool.

As I said, you have to start with large teeth and go down to small. That's the easiest way to remove any loose hair or snarls.
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Middle Child on January 21, 2018, 01:02:44 PM
Steel really isn't uncomfortable (a comb is a comb is a comb) unless you let it get so matted that nothing is going to take it out. What's uncomfortable, with ANY grooming tool, is when you hit their skin. I make sure I don't hit skin. It's all in knowing how to use each tool.

As I said, you have to start with large teeth and go down to small. That's the easiest way to remove any loose hair or snarls.

Not hit the skin with the steel comb you mean?  If that much care to avoid contact with skin is needed, that would be another reason I wouldn't want to use one. 

  I think grooming dogs must be different from grooming cats then. Combing a cat, the point is to remove the loose fur on the undercoat. And they clearly love the feel of the comb on their skin. :)
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: DeeDee on January 21, 2018, 01:22:53 PM
I won't let anything except soft brush-bristles touch their skin to distribute oils and loosen dust/dander for the vacuum. The Ionic brush has round balls on the ends of the bristles so that it doesn't hurt them, or I wouldn't use it.

I make sure I'm holding other combs and brushes at such an angle that it only goes through hair and the tips don't touch skin.

I don't know about cats, but I DO know that dogs that have been hurt by grooming tools can become afraid of being groomed and can bite a plug out of a person.
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Middle Child on January 21, 2018, 02:19:39 PM
I can imagine they would. So it seems my dislike of metal grooming tools has a basis, anyway. For my cats there wouldn't be any point in a grooming that didn't involve reaching the skin, so we'll stick to the soft plastic combs. The teeth are quite dull. :)
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: DeeDee on January 21, 2018, 02:27:42 PM
ISo it seems my dislike of metal grooming tools has a basis, anyway. For my cats there wouldn't be any point in a grooming that didn't involve reaching the skin, so we'll stick to the soft plastic combs.

Those plastic combs won't reach through some dog's coats without breaking. They just won't. It becomes a cost factor on top of the static issue.
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Middle Child on January 21, 2018, 04:30:42 PM
Those plastic combs won't reach through some dog's coats without breaking. They just won't. It becomes a cost factor on top of the static issue.


I understand Dee.  But you and I are coming from different perspectives here.  I am talking about cats' coats. You-dogs with heavy, coarse or curly coats.
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: DeeDee on January 21, 2018, 05:00:07 PM
I understand Dee.  But you and I are coming from different perspectives here.  I am talking about cats' coats. You-dogs with heavy, coarse or curly coats.

But catgirl also asked about dogs. And she's got a pom. I understand pom coat.
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Catgirl64 on January 21, 2018, 06:39:09 PM
You've both been very helpful.  I'm going to try the undercoat rake on Bandit, and get some combs for the cats, as well as trying the boar bristle brush on them.  Actually, my main problem with Bandit is not that I don't know what tools to use on him, but the fact that he hates all of them - thrashes around and tries to bite them.  I'm not afraid of him, but it does make it awfully difficult to work on him when he won't hold still.  That is why I was hoping some sort of glove would be appropriate.  The parts he most dislikes having brushed are the same parts he LOVES to have scratched. 
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Pookie on January 21, 2018, 09:40:33 PM
Actually, my main problem with Bandit is not that I don't know what tools to use on him, but the fact that he hates all of them - thrashes around and tries to bite them.  I'm not afraid of him, but it does make it awfully difficult to work on him when he won't hold still.  That is why I was hoping some sort of glove would be appropriate.  The parts he most dislikes having brushed are the same parts he LOVES to have scratched. 

I'm not the resident Dog Expert here, so take this with a grain of salt:  I'm wondering if some sort of positive association would help.  Maybe start of with just letting him sniff it, and reward him with a treat (if he doesn't try to bite it).  Put it by his food bowl when he's eating, that sort of thing, so he gets used to it and associates it with nice things.  Then lightly brush him with it - just one stroke, then stop, and assuming he hasn't tried to bite it, give him a treat.  And slowly keep increasing the number of strokes, over a period of days, continuing to reward him.

I have no idea if it would work, but it might be worth a try.  Just my  2cents.  Whatever you use/do, good luck!   fingerscrossed

EDIT:  I just saw the other thread where DeeDee posted how to introduce Bandit to the new tool.  Oops.  You can disregard this post.   :)
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Catgirl64 on January 22, 2018, 06:48:22 AM
I'm not the resident Dog Expert here, so take this with a grain of salt:  I'm wondering if some sort of positive association would help.  Maybe start of with just letting him sniff it, and reward him with a treat (if he doesn't try to bite it).  Put it by his food bowl when he's eating, that sort of thing, so he gets used to it and associates it with nice things.  Then lightly brush him with it - just one stroke, then stop, and assuming he hasn't tried to bite it, give him a treat.  And slowly keep increasing the number of strokes, over a period of days, continuing to reward him.

I have no idea if it would work, but it might be worth a try.  Just my  2cents.  Whatever you use/do, good luck!   fingerscrossed

EDIT:  I just saw the other thread where DeeDee posted how to introduce Bandit to the new tool.  Oops.  You can disregard this post.   :)

I'm glad you posted.  I may not have seen the other thread right away if you had not.  I am going to try this. 
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Catgirl64 on January 22, 2018, 06:55:58 AM
MC, I tried the boar bristle brush, and the cats loved it!  NO signs of incipient mats, not even in the cotton-candy fine hair behind Truman's ears, which leads me to believe that a proper diet is the best grooming tool of all.  He used to get little tangles there all the time, no matter what I did.  I knew that wet/raw food would improve their coats, but this is beyond amazing.   
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Middle Child on January 28, 2018, 08:58:21 AM
MC, I tried the boar bristle brush, and the cats loved it!  NO signs of incipient mats, not even in the cotton-candy fine hair behind Truman's ears, which leads me to believe that a proper diet is the best grooming tool of all.  He used to get little tangles there all the time, no matter what I did.  I knew that wet/raw food would improve their coats, but this is beyond amazing.   

Yep...this is the passion that kibble addicts ( I speak of the humans feeding the kibble) just can not understand.

Glad they like the boar bristle brush.  Jennie loves hers. (she loves her comb, too)  Queen Eva likes her comb.  Mazy cat doesn't allow grooming except in very tiny amounts, when she is dozing on my chest, with her own comb. It took years to get her to accept even that.

Mazy cat had a rough coat all her life until raw.  Even on canned, it was nicer, but still not really soft or plush.  But now...wow.

Sadly her shedding has not diminished.

And they have started the spring shed with a deluge.
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Catgirl64 on January 28, 2018, 11:57:34 AM
Yep...this is the passion that kibble addicts ( I speak of the humans feeding the kibble) just can not understand.

Glad they like the boar bristle brush.  Jennie loves hers. (she loves her comb, too)  Queen Eva likes her comb.  Mazy cat doesn't allow grooming except in very tiny amounts, when she is dozing on my chest, with her own comb. It took years to get her to accept even that.

Mazy cat had a rough coat all her life until raw.  Even on canned, it was nicer, but still not really soft or plush.  But now...wow.

Sadly her shedding has not diminished.

And they have started the spring shed with a deluge.

Lucy has always had a soft, smooth coat, but now it feels like silk, and the black parts on Truman, who is black and white...wow.  Black cats are usually shiny, but he is like a mirror!  The other cats' coats are improving, too, and even Mouse's is feeling softer.  Mouse has an unusual coat.  I wouldn't call it rough, exactly, but it is a very "wild" color, sort of agouti, like a field rabbit, a bit shorter than that of most cats, and, for the lack of a better word, a bit more coarse, although that's not quite right, either.  She almost doesn't look like a domestic cat.  She is never going to be shiny-looking - I don't think that color lends itself to shininess - but she does feel softer.  Biggest improvement is probably with Jenny, who used to be terribly prone to mats everywhere. 
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Lola on January 28, 2018, 04:52:29 PM
I had (only have one now) two cats that would get hair mats.  Once I started feeding raw... no mats.  That was a surprise, that I didn't expect. 
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Lola on January 29, 2018, 09:48:57 PM
You mentioned dry air... sometime ago...  does brushing a dog or cat, not create more static?
Title: Re: Has anyone used these gloves?
Post by: Catgirl64 on January 30, 2018, 10:46:40 AM
You mentioned dry air... sometime ago...  does brushing a dog or cat, not create more static?

It can.  I got a small humidifier, which helps.  It was worst when we had an extended very cold spell, and is much improved now.