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Caring For Your Cat / Re: Queen Eva threw up with a pink tinge
« Last post by Middle Child on December 20, 2023, 05:54:04 AM »
She had some very hard dry stool so I gave her some lactulose. Dosed her twice, with 1 ml Monday night and then 0.5 ml yesterday at lunch. Poops back to normal after that.

She's still eating like crazy, mostly canned with one raw meal in the morning.  She's worse on the off-pred days and after Saturday she's off it all together and I'm scared of that.

Still NO sign of any hairball accumulation, though I am still not seeing it in her poop, it HAS to be there, because she could not eat 1.5 ounces of canned with water added in one sitting, if she had a wad in her guts, one would think.

Chewy has discontinued the Organix brand of canned I use, but they didn't say why. I've searched and don't see any indication that the brand has been discontinued. I did order something else, from Ziwi Peak, to try, just in case, but she is doing really well on the Organix. She always has, in spite of the pea content.

I'd prefer her to be on raw, but she's eating this canned like she's ravenous, so I'll keep her on it mostly, for now, to keep trying to bring her weight back up.

She'll play a little but only lying on the floor batting at the feather Games, or her Fly Swatter Game on the bed.. Her arthritis is bad, but I think the cosequin is bothering her stomach. After she has it she crouches in discomfort.

Same with the SEB.

So the only supplement she's getting now is her s.boulardii with her raw meal. Canned meals, which are the bulk of her diet at the moment have nothing added to them but water. I am getting one ounce (by weight)** of added water a day into her. I haven't gotten the Vet's Best yet.

** I did a conversion and now know that 1 ounce of water by weight is equivalent to 0.95 fluid ounces. So it's that much extra added to her diet which is 78% moisture to being with.

EDIT:  I am striving for 12 hour fasts overnight, but during the week I can't manage it, the best I can do is 11 hours. It's easier on weekends because I can wait to feed her later in the morning. But during the work week,, it just doesn't work, so 11 hours it is. Sometimes 10 1/2. :(
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Caring For Your Cat / Re: Queen Eva threw up with a pink tinge
« Last post by Pookie on December 19, 2023, 04:01:51 PM »
Thinking of you both, and hoping all's well.   fingerscrossed fingerscrossed fingerscrossed Hug1 Hug1 Hug1
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Caring For Your Cat / Re: Queen Eva threw up with a pink tinge
« Last post by Pookie on December 17, 2023, 02:37:16 PM »
grouphug

I'm glad she's had some poops, and that she's eating.  That's good news!

As for the Denamarin, I don't blame you for holding off on using it.  Salmon oil is also an antioxidant, if Queen Eva needs one, and could be added to her food, saving you both the stress of pilling.

The book that has the face/ear/paw maps is Reflexology for Cats by Jackie Segers.  She walks you through how to do it, so if you do want to try it, you may want to order her book.  I think she's in New Zealand.

Xing fingers that the 12 hour fasts help out, and that the constipation resolves quickly!   fingerscrossed
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Caring For Your Cat / Re: Queen Eva threw up with a pink tinge
« Last post by Middle Child on December 17, 2023, 06:28:25 AM »
Another nice poop over night with some fur in it. I'm not sure if it was enough fur, but we'll see. I'm giving her 12 hour overnight fasts.

I'm in a quandary about the Denamarin though. I can't see me having a fight with her every morning, soon I won't see her at all in the morning, if I attempt this pill, that has to be syringed down with 3 ccs of water. It's only guess work if it will do anything and I'm not inclined to put her through it at this stage.

I think I forgot to mention the Denamarin. Vet recommended it as an antioxidant. Says they suggest it for pancreatitis patients. Which Queen Eva is not confirmed to have, since we couldn't do the blood work.

I took my question about it to the Raw for IBD group and only got one useful answer from someone who is (I think) a vet tech said they use it for support in pancreatitis cases.

Still, it is not confirmed she has pancreatitis, and I'm just not putting the two of us through it at this stage.
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Caring For Your Cat / Re: Queen Eva threw up with a pink tinge
« Last post by Middle Child on December 16, 2023, 07:50:44 AM »
Queen Eva likes her ears drubbed, and accepts combing around her chin and neck. I appreciate your offer, I do, you are very generous to offer your time and effort. It's not that I am not open to Reflexology, I am sure it can be an effective tool, but I have no skills in that area nor the current brain function to learn them. I would be more afraid of doing harm from doing it wrong, than helping.

However, since you've brought it up, when I am feeling less tired, if that ever happens, I'll look it up and try to learn more about it. I don't want to bring my own troubles to Queen Eva's thread but I have terrible brain fog and live most of each day in terror that I will be presented with something I cannot comprehend, but should be able to grasp.

Since she hasn't passed any fur I gave her a 12+ hour fast hoping the fur would get moving. This morning she had two small hard stools, which now indicates she is constipated. Sigh......

I've just given her a 0.6 ml dose of lactulose.

EDIT 10:57 (2 hours later) she did have two more stools.  Still very firm but one had some fur in it. Too soon for the lactulose to have taken effect, so those would have come regardless.  She still has an appetite as well.

She peed and pooped and it would have been an ideal time to do the nail trim, which she is due for, but my sister is coming and I'm not sure when she will arrive, so I didn't want to start it and be interrupted.
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Caring For Your Cat / Re: Queen Eva threw up with a pink tinge
« Last post by Pookie on December 15, 2023, 02:19:14 PM »
2 Questions :  is Queen Eva okay with you touching her ears?  Or is she okay with you touching her face?

I had ordered a reflexology for cats book years ago, and it includes maps of points for not just the paws, but the ears and face.  I know you've had a lot going on, and I'm not suggesting you do this, but I wanted to share the information with you as something to consider, in case it's an option.  Obviously if these are things that would stress Queen Eva, then forget it.  I just wanted to toss it out there.

If it's something that you think she would tolerate, and you would be open to it, I'm happy to make a photocopy of the "maps" and send them to you, so you have them if you need/want them.

GoodVibes grouphug  Hug1
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Caring For Your Cat / Re: Queen Eva threw up with a pink tinge
« Last post by Middle Child on December 15, 2023, 01:16:05 PM »
Queen Eva's internal medicine appointment is scheduled for Wednesday January 17th at 9:30. I would have preferred a Friday, but I didn't want to delay any longer. I will probably have to take the 18th off as well, though I hate to sacrifice the day.   

I am most likely going to end up running out of vacation time again this year like I did two years ago.

Tapering the prednisolone starts tomorrow.

Fur is essentially roughage, which is all fiber really is.  Just to try to clarify.  And I agree that cats don't really need fiber.

Is Upstate open on Saturdays?  Maybe you can connect with them then?

I wonder why the vet won't give you liquid instead of pills.  I wish she would listen to you, as you know what works best for Queen Eva.

HangInThere   Hug1 Hug1 Hug1

The clinic is open 24 hours a day, but they only do things like schedule appointments during regular 8-5 business hours.

Well there are different types of fiber that provide different benefits.Soluble and insoluble. Vet wants her to be on a combination of. Right now I'm putting her on just some SEB added to one meal a day and well see. I will get the Vet's Best though. Slippery elm apparently provides both soluble and insoluble, from what I've read. Too bad I didn't start with that instead of the psyllium, when this issue first started three years ago.

Liquid pred doesn't keep long.  So there's no point in dispensing it in advance. Pills are more shelf stable.

If she goes on it long term, I will have them send the script out to Wedgewood, which was where I was getting Mazy cat's pred in liquid form.

What I asked was that she put a standing order in Queen Eva's record, so that if I called, they'd be able to dispense it (the liquid pred) when I asked for it, even if my vet wasn't there.

She said that wasn't practical, that it was better for me to keep the pills on hand.
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Caring For Your Cat / Re: Queen Eva threw up with a pink tinge
« Last post by Pookie on December 15, 2023, 12:47:14 PM »
It's too bad she doesn't like have her paws messed with.  There are acupressure points on the paws that, if worked on, might help.  Oh well.
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Caring For Your Cat / Re: Queen Eva threw up with a pink tinge
« Last post by Pookie on December 15, 2023, 08:58:34 AM »
Fur is essentially roughage, which is all fiber really is.  Just to try to clarify.  And I agree that cats don't really need fiber.

Is Upstate open on Saturdays?  Maybe you can connect with them then?

I wonder why the vet won't give you liquid instead of pills.  I wish she would listen to you, as you know what works best for Queen Eva.

HangInThere   Hug1 Hug1 Hug1
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Caring For Your Cat / Re: Queen Eva threw up with a pink tinge
« Last post by Middle Child on December 15, 2023, 05:30:09 AM »
Spoke to the vet. She said okay to try the Vet's Best.

She will provide me with a prescription of prednisolone for in case this happens again, but she wants to give me pills to have at home rather than leave a standing order in Queen Eva's chart for the liquid.  I would have preferred the liquid. It's such a tiny amount, easy to give, and more accurate. The pills have to be split into quarters and will not give the correct dose, it will be slightly less.

Asked if I'd started the Denamarin. I haven't. I said that would have to wait until the weekend, I didn't want to mess up our work day routine before I knew how she would cope with the pill.

I hope I can connect with Upstate today and get this appointment scheduled.
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